Thanks for this Jacob. I’m in a lot of these leagues… I’m sure I’m in a few with you as well (my handle always has the name Black Magic in it). This dude also took to Reddit to try to crush Ilias’ reputation as a commissioner and have him removed from Reddit. Essentially telling readers to avoid any of his leagues cuz he took his cash and after the draft he tossed them out for no reason and stopped responding. Ilias said both he and also LeagueSafe discovered that the guy paid for two different teams. So he was definitely up to no good.
If it’s the same guy, then yeah NO. That’s super wack. Don’t cheat man. Just play and have fun. As far as trades go… it’s SO subjective on trades MOST of the time. I can’t stand talking to dudes for HOURS and DAYS and going back and forth with trades, just to get veto’d when we finally find a trade we both like and think is fair.
A few years back we were playing in a guy who scams people by the name of JC Jasso. Me and my mates came 1st 2nd & 3rd, and he straight up just didn’t pay us. He paid like 20% of the winnings and didn’t pay anymore.
Interesting. I’ve been in his leagues a few times in the last few years, but hadn’t won much (damn injuries) in them, so I wasn’t sure what to believe when He has a FB page with 5k people that he says he’s been in leagues with. He said last year he ran/participated 250 leagues, which is unbelievable. Then I noticed every now and then a comment would appear on the FB page of someone saying they won and hadn’t been paid in months…. And a bit later I’d look to see if it had been resolved…and the comments were gone.. This year I noticed on the FB page, he hadn’t advertised almost any leagues at all when it used to be about 3-5 per day, opening as early as August, so I asked what’s up and he said he’s selling the page/retiring from fantasy basketball… Link to the page: facebook.com/share/g/7Sx5tKB1meaEB64u/?mibextid=K35XfP
Would love to join one of the leagues. Feels unfair to be free-rolling, but happy to return buy-ins for guys if I end up winning (-$500 winnings for my time). I was kind of like Josh with like 20 cash leagues a couple of years ago, but have scaled it down with the demands of life haha. Seems like a good opening here!
Dont veto trades, let everything through unless it ridiculous bad. That was fine trade, with news about embiid, plus his last year ruined alot of teams, hes a 3rd round pick at best with that news
It is crazy not to veto this trade. Lamelo & Lillard are top 25 players. Embiid is top 5 by average, but misses so many games he's more like a top 25 player as well. Turner, with his particular skillset, is one of the most valuable Centers in the game. Melton is more of a spare part by now, but he still has elite upside in the steals category. Basically, you're talking about an elite blocks player, maybe an elite steals player & two elite point guards. In addition to giving up Embiid, the other side is sending Brad Beal & Tobias Harris, basically both top 75 guys AT BEST, and Bojan Bogdanovic, waiver wire trash. So it's basically 2 top 25 players, a top 40 & a lottery ticket for 1 top 25 player, 2 top 75 guys and a drop. It's a gross trade in any league, and if this happened in the preseason of a big money league, I'd freak the fuck out. And of course, they find out it's all one guy, because OF COURSE IT IS, the parameters of the trade would only be agreed to if someone was trying to stack a team.
There’s more to this. Trust me, this is one guy and he’s a scumbag. He ran onto Reddit smearing the commissioner and both LeagueSafe and the commissioner discovered that this was the same person that entered that league under two different names.
@@DeezBitsses If he is one guy then of course. Otherwise- no collision, no veto. They are adults and have their reasons, its subjective and trading is part of the game
I have been playing fantasy sports for over 10 years and I do not play in single season fantasy sports leagues with trading anymore because there is always someone selling out at the deadline when they have no chance of making the playoffs to a team that they have a good relationship with. These teams are playing as farm teams for their friends. I now only play in dynasty/keeper leagues because the teams in those leagues are going to be stacked anyways and if I feel like I can't compete atleast I can stack my team with draft picks next season. I will only play in single season leagues if there is NO TRADING. That trade you showed above seems fair but having a guy trade to himself is just ridiculous. You are lucky you were able to kick him out before the season started because one of his teams would of ended becoming a farm team at the trade deadline.
Hello Jacob! Love your channel with Josh! I actually played against him in a public league this past year…I think his team was called Lukaless or something. It was very fun playing with him and please send him my regards. Very unfortunate about what happened, hope everything works out okay. I would definitely take the freed up manager’s spot if it’s still available. Please get back to me as soon as you are able. Thank you!
I'd be interested in taking over one of the abandoned teams. Was offered to take over in a similar manner on Y! ~6-7 years ago. And still at it; draft this Sun. GL to whomever you select!
Love the channel, would def be interested in managing a team! Would be willing to cap winnings in some way, wouldn't expect to be able to fully cash out with no real buy-in. Seems to weird to leave after putting in $500. Wish I had 500 to burn so easy ha. What evidence is there that it was one person? Just that both accounts left?
I would be interested in joing your league. I am a platinum player rated 825 and am very active. I would love the opportunity to take my fantasy knowledge to the next level. Whether thats managing the open teams or the Auction draft Friday night.
seems like a weird situation, that trade is a little lopsided but probably not a veto, but leaving the league after the draft is such poor sportsmanship and makes them in the wrong the theory of it being one guy having 4 accounts across 2 leagues though feels a little far-fetched, like you said there’s no financial motivation cuz you’d have to win both leagues to make money and trades like that won’t make sure you win. and doing 2 auction drafts at the same time does sound impossible lol. i’d think the more simple explanation is that two people got pissed at the league for vetoing their trade and then were very poor sports about it and left either way it sucks that happened
@@trashtalknba well i guess that changes things! haha. but seems like league safe thought that but fantrax didn't? still just feels so convoluted, i can't imagine what the motivation would be. i wonder how league safe confirmed that, b/c i think you just put like your name and email in when you signup and i doubt you can use the same email on two accounts, so seems like they'd make an educated guess from account behavior or something instead of actual knowing for sure in any case this was an interesting story to hear! this is why i stay away from expensive leagues, cuz money can make people crazy
Hey Jake, would love to join the league. Never played auction before but from the last few channel videos, this sounds like a great opportunity to try it out. I managed 3 teams last year and won 2 leagues and came 2nd in the other. Currently Diamond level.
I'd 100% love to take over the league if im lucky enough to get chosen. It's Deffinetly my favourite channel. It doesn't look like collusion with the value of the trades. Slightly lop sided but that happens in any trade, but if same guy for both teams then yeah 100% kick them.
Had a 12t $500 auction last night after latest Embiid news. This would have been a $78 for $69(Embiid team) in total spend trade based on that draft. Not near enough of a difference for me to raise the concern of collusion. Could be still but not enough to veto without other information. That other trade didn't sound alarming either. I often send out trades offers right after a draft too, don't see this as some red flag.
It's a well crafted trade, as cheating trades go, but ask yourself which side you would want? I'd much rather have Lillard, Lamelo, Turner & Melton. That team is getting the definitive edge in the following categories: FT%, 3s, Points, Assists, Steals. They are definitely losing some in FG% & TO. Rebounding & blocks aren't that far off, it's probably a push there, maybe a slight edge to the Embiid team, depending on how things shake out. Beal & Harris would have to have excellent seasons for this trade to be relatively equal. If they continue to regress? Bad.
Hey there. I'm a Platinum on Yahoo and do multiple $250-1000 leagues every season. Would love to try my hand at it. I'm very competitive and it'll be fun.
Thanks for this Jacob. I’m in a lot of these leagues… I’m sure I’m in a few with you as well (my handle always has the name Black Magic in it). This dude also took to Reddit to try to crush Ilias’ reputation as a commissioner and have him removed from Reddit. Essentially telling readers to avoid any of his leagues cuz he took his cash and after the draft he tossed them out for no reason and stopped responding. Ilias said both he and also LeagueSafe discovered that the guy paid for two different teams. So he was definitely up to no good.
If it’s the same guy, then yeah NO. That’s super wack. Don’t cheat man. Just play and have fun.
As far as trades go… it’s SO subjective on trades MOST of the time. I can’t stand talking to dudes for HOURS and DAYS and going back and forth with trades, just to get veto’d when we finally find a trade we both like and think is fair.
A few years back we were playing in a guy who scams people by the name of JC Jasso. Me and my mates came 1st 2nd & 3rd, and he straight up just didn’t pay us. He paid like 20% of the winnings and didn’t pay anymore.
We actually recorded a video about him today. Look for it to drop soon
Interesting. I’ve been in his leagues a few times in the last few years, but hadn’t won much (damn injuries) in them, so I wasn’t sure what to believe when He has a FB page with 5k people that he says he’s been in leagues with. He said last year he ran/participated 250 leagues, which is unbelievable. Then I noticed every now and then a comment would appear on the FB page of someone saying they won and hadn’t been paid in months…. And a bit later I’d look to see if it had been resolved…and the comments were gone..
This year I noticed on the FB page, he hadn’t advertised almost any leagues at all when it used to be about 3-5 per day, opening as early as August, so I asked what’s up and he said he’s selling the page/retiring from fantasy basketball…
Link to the page:
facebook.com/share/g/7Sx5tKB1meaEB64u/?mibextid=K35XfP
Would love to join one of the leagues. Feels unfair to be free-rolling, but happy to return buy-ins for guys if I end up winning (-$500 winnings for my time). I was kind of like Josh with like 20 cash leagues a couple of years ago, but have scaled it down with the demands of life haha. Seems like a good opening here!
I’m interested! I’m a diamond manager and big fun of this channel!
I would love to join your league! Been playing for about 5 years and am a plat player!
Dont veto trades, let everything through unless it ridiculous bad. That was fine trade, with news about embiid, plus his last year ruined alot of teams, hes a 3rd round pick at best with that news
interested! been on playing for over 15 years. been commishing a league for a long time, thanks!
lol everyone throwing in their resumes in the comments. Listen man, I’ve been here since Josh was posting tutorials on reddit!! I’m loyal!! LET ME IN!
I'd be interested in taking over one of the two teams if it is still available
those guys are right. It is crazy to veto this trade. League members voting for veto is not working. and sure interested
It is crazy not to veto this trade.
Lamelo & Lillard are top 25 players. Embiid is top 5 by average, but misses so many games he's more like a top 25 player as well.
Turner, with his particular skillset, is one of the most valuable Centers in the game. Melton is more of a spare part by now, but he still has elite upside in the steals category.
Basically, you're talking about an elite blocks player, maybe an elite steals player & two elite point guards.
In addition to giving up Embiid, the other side is sending Brad Beal & Tobias Harris, basically both top 75 guys AT BEST, and Bojan Bogdanovic, waiver wire trash.
So it's basically 2 top 25 players, a top 40 & a lottery ticket for 1 top 25 player, 2 top 75 guys and a drop.
It's a gross trade in any league, and if this happened in the preseason of a big money league, I'd freak the fuck out.
And of course, they find out it's all one guy, because OF COURSE IT IS, the parameters of the trade would only be agreed to if someone was trying to stack a team.
There’s more to this. Trust me, this is one guy and he’s a scumbag. He ran onto Reddit smearing the commissioner and both LeagueSafe and the commissioner discovered that this was the same person that entered that league under two different names.
@@DeezBitsses post the reddit link?
@@DeezBitsses When you feel treated unjust and have nothing to do about it (especially in high money league)- it gets very frustrating
@@DeezBitsses If he is one guy then of course. Otherwise- no collision, no veto. They are adults and have their reasons, its subjective and trading is part of the game
I have been playing fantasy sports for over 10 years and I do not play in single season fantasy sports leagues with trading anymore because there is always someone selling out at the deadline when they have no chance of making the playoffs to a team that they have a good relationship with. These teams are playing as farm teams for their friends. I now only play in dynasty/keeper leagues because the teams in those leagues are going to be stacked anyways and if I feel like I can't compete atleast I can stack my team with draft picks next season. I will only play in single season leagues if there is NO TRADING.
That trade you showed above seems fair but having a guy trade to himself is just ridiculous. You are lucky you were able to kick him out before the season started because one of his teams would of ended becoming a farm team at the trade deadline.
Very interesting stuff, thank you for sharing this ugly side of fantasy ball 👀
Hello Jacob! Love your channel with Josh! I actually played against him in a public league this past year…I think his team was called Lukaless or something. It was very fun playing with him and please send him my regards. Very unfortunate about what happened, hope everything works out okay. I would definitely take the freed up manager’s spot if it’s still available. Please get back to me as soon as you are able. Thank you!
What happened with Josh?
I'd be interested in taking over one of the abandoned teams. Was offered to take over in a similar manner on Y! ~6-7 years ago. And still at it; draft this Sun. GL to whomever you select!
I'd love to join! :D
I'm late to this party but look forward to hearing the results 🎉 In too many leagues already anyway 😂
Im interested. Thats a free one why not 😁😁
I suspect multiple teams collude in certain ways. Obvious way is trade but in auction drafts, there has been some suspicious bidding at times.
How would that work?
@trashtalknba we have one guy in baseball as example that just bids you up and ends up having a trash team while you overpay.
You should do a random draw to fill those two spots out! I am interested.
Love the channel, would def be interested in managing a team! Would be willing to cap winnings in some way, wouldn't expect to be able to fully cash out with no real buy-in.
Seems to weird to leave after putting in $500. Wish I had 500 to burn so easy ha. What evidence is there that it was one person? Just that both accounts left?
I would be interested in joing your league. I am a platinum player rated 825 and am very active. I would love the opportunity to take my fantasy knowledge to the next level. Whether thats managing the open teams or the Auction draft Friday night.
seems like a weird situation, that trade is a little lopsided but probably not a veto, but leaving the league after the draft is such poor sportsmanship and makes them in the wrong
the theory of it being one guy having 4 accounts across 2 leagues though feels a little far-fetched, like you said there’s no financial motivation cuz you’d have to win both leagues to make money and trades like that won’t make sure you win. and doing 2 auction drafts at the same time does sound impossible lol. i’d think the more simple explanation is that two people got pissed at the league for vetoing their trade and then were very poor sports about it and left
either way it sucks that happened
Check out the follow up video. It was definitely one person
@@trashtalknba well i guess that changes things! haha. but seems like league safe thought that but fantrax didn't? still just feels so convoluted, i can't imagine what the motivation would be. i wonder how league safe confirmed that, b/c i think you just put like your name and email in when you signup and i doubt you can use the same email on two accounts, so seems like they'd make an educated guess from account behavior or something instead of actual knowing for sure
in any case this was an interesting story to hear! this is why i stay away from expensive leagues, cuz money can make people crazy
I would love to join your league aswell, Jacob!! Have been part of your subscribers-league last year. 😊
In from Australia would love to play but I can’t play yahoo prize leagues from Australia cause of my location anyone know what I can do to change that
Hey Jake, would love to join the league. Never played auction before but from the last few channel videos, this sounds like a great opportunity to try it out. I managed 3 teams last year and won 2 leagues and came 2nd in the other. Currently Diamond level.
I'd 100% love to take over the league if im lucky enough to get chosen. It's Deffinetly my favourite channel. It doesn't look like collusion with the value of the trades. Slightly lop sided but that happens in any trade, but if same guy for both teams then yeah 100% kick them.
Is Rudy Gobert and Dyson Daniels for Embiid and Gradey Dick a good trade? Or is Embiid too risky?
12T H2H 9cat
Your guess is as good as mine
@NBA Trash Talk Where can I find Elias FB group or something? would want to join this season or next
Will put his info in a follow up
I’m down to join bro.. #longtimesubscriber
I’ll join the league
They've been managing two teams in one league at the same time?
LET ME IN PLEASE😂 🙏
Interested to join either the 500 or 250 league.
let me in im interested
I'm interested in taking one of the teams. I am 986 diamond on yahoo and won 2 dynasty leagues last year. I am an active and attentive manager.
I'd like to join! currently have 3 active cash leagues so not going to be inactive as well
Am I bad for thinking the person getting embiid wins the trade?
Yes
There should be no trades and waivers should be FAB
Won last year.. I'm down even though I'm a bit late.. lol 😅
I just did my draft and 2 ppl almost left today
I'd like to join an abandoned team. I'm a Diamond over on Y! so there's no concerns of me going inactive.
I am interested
Hey, if still available and open. I wouldn’t mind joining
Hi! I'm interested! manager since 2014. Not the highest ratings (827). Currently playing 1 league only as the commish. New dad as well lol
Had a 12t $500 auction last night after latest Embiid news. This would have been a $78 for $69(Embiid team) in total spend trade based on that draft. Not near enough of a difference for me to raise the concern of collusion. Could be still but not enough to veto without other information. That other trade didn't sound alarming either. I often send out trades offers right after a draft too, don't see this as some red flag.
It's a well crafted trade, as cheating trades go, but ask yourself which side you would want?
I'd much rather have Lillard, Lamelo, Turner & Melton.
That team is getting the definitive edge in the following categories:
FT%, 3s, Points, Assists, Steals.
They are definitely losing some in FG% & TO.
Rebounding & blocks aren't that far off, it's probably a push there, maybe a slight edge to the Embiid team, depending on how things shake out.
Beal & Harris would have to have excellent seasons for this trade to be relatively equal. If they continue to regress? Bad.
Would love to join.
ill do it!
i would be interested in taking over a team
Hey there. I'm a Platinum on Yahoo and do multiple $250-1000 leagues every season. Would love to try my hand at it. I'm very competitive and it'll be fun.
I would like to take over for free 😂
I’m down !
i'll join
Chet or scottie barnes for a points punt league
Hi i am interested to take over the team thanks
Im down to join if ya’ll still need
Sign me up for the free league spot, can we choose which team we get?
Jacob I am interested. Let me know.
..i’ll take over a team…Diamond..playing since 2005….
I’ll take over the abandoned team if you need someone
where's the 16 team league ???
Didn’t record it
@@trashtalknba is there any leagues i can join?
are* sorry ESL
ill take over the team
I hate that ish, effin weirdos….
Hi I am very thankful if you can join me to your league 🙂
Interested in taking one of the teams myself, already in some other leagues with Elias so ping me if you wish to send you my e-mail. Cheers.